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[Scott Gorlick]: Yo, oh, how are y’all good man, how you doing right long time how Yeah, it was good It really has been a long time. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, it was good, man. Was glad to be back afterwards, but always good to get out for a bit. We’re starting to plan this winter, actually. [Scott Gorlick]: Oh, amazing. Where are you going? [Michael Houck]: I don’t know yet. We want to do probably Cape Town again, because the time zone is just so good for working. [Scott Gorlick]: I know you guys love that. [Michael Houck]: I also want to check out Argentina, though. Never been there. [Scott Gorlick]: Haven’t done Argentina, but Cape Town’s obviously amazing. How is, how’s the wife’s new job? I know she was starting something. You guys were trying to get out before that. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, she, um, she started basically right when we got back. Uh, she’s yeah, it’s good to YC company. Um, they seem to be growing fast. So, you know, I’m still early days, but she let, she’s liking it. So all good. Um, but yeah, no, Spain was great, man. We, um, we did, uh, We did El Celler to Kenroka, and it was just unreal. It was so good. [Scott Gorlick]: That’s awesome. We have not done Spain. We haven’t done a lot of Europe. We’ve done Asia a bunch, and just sort of more domestic stuff. But now we’re kind of grounded, so we’re just living by character through all of our friends. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah, the baby’s coming in like the next few weeks here. Oh, shit. [Scott Gorlick]: You know, we are kind of, we’ve got like a mid-November due date, but we may need to deliver like a month early. So we’re just kind of like scrambling, trying to get everything ready. [Michael Houck]: What’s left on the to-do list before arrival? [Scott Gorlick]: I mean, a lot of the shopping is done, so it’s just making sure that we have the bottle sterilizer and just making sure that we have the right gear. Yesterday, we FaceTimed with a woman called the car seat lady. I don’t know if you’ve heard about this or not, but it’s a thing. Woman has like 50,000 followers and she just kind of like installs car seats and she’s actually a pediatrician and has built like a really nice business out of this and charges people you know money to do like consults over like which car seat to choose and then she’ll actually like come and install it for you. I think it’s pretty manual in that she goes to a lot of people and she could just sell it as a course, but it’s really interesting and she loves what she does. So if it’s ever interesting, happy to share notes and tell you what cars to get. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, I’m very confused. I mean, I’m obviously ignorant on this topic, but I would think that the sort of like descriptions of the car seat are like, this one’s good for this, and this one’s for when your baby’s this old or whatever. [Scott Gorlick]: And this is bought a mattress, right? [UNKNOWN_SPEAKER]: Yeah. [Michael Houck]: Yeah. Bought a mattress. [Scott Gorlick]: And it’s the same sort of like affiliate scam thing where like everybody’s pumping their product and it’s not really clear like what has the best product, what’s the safest, et cetera. So there’s like a lot of like misinformation out there. So it’s, it’s super interesting. But, um, Yeah. What’s popping on your side? I know you guys are working on Ghostwriting. I know Megaphone is going, but we’d love to hear the latest. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, Ghostwriting is going well. We’ve got about 10 clients now doing that, a small team of writers. [Michael Houck]: And we’ve figured out sort of how to keep growing that via cold email. And so there’s really no limit to what we can do there. So I’m just adding a couple people every few weeks, new clients. Um, and we have like a connection to get more writers of high quality from this like community. So, um, yeah, I mean, the idea is just keep growing that, uh, it’s super light work for me. I just have to do kickoff calls with people. And then I basically turned over to the writer, uh, Blakey mall actually joined as our like lead editor guy. And so editor in chief, whatever. And so he’s, um, He takes over most of the content stuff, so it’s really, really lightweight for me, which is great. Uncommon for an agency, I think, to be like that, but that’s where we’re at. And then Megaphone’s good. We’re been sort of like slugging along for the past like two months because, you know, engineers have just been super slow and we’re migrating from Airtable to a real database and it’s taking forever. [Michael Houck]: that should finally be going live in the next couple weeks. And so that will then include a whole new dashboard design, the ability to launch our groups feature, like all this stuff that we’ve sort of been like waiting to get out there. So the idea there is basically once we have the groups feature live, just pump growth as much as possible in Q4 and maybe into Q1. And then sometime in the first half of next year, just look to sell it, look to flip it. Just get a win, you know get something out of the bank. So one. [Scott Gorlick]: Um, what is the group’s feature? [Michael Houck]: so Right now when you share post a megaphone you pay creators to engage with your stuff, right? And you we charge a subscription on top of that. Yeah, but What we want to do is launch a free tier where people can sign up and just by mutual agreement by like clicking on a link and like pressing a button and share posts back and forth with their friends for free and have like little like personal group chats around that. And so we think that’ll be a big growth driver because a lot of these creators in particular, they like, you know, they copy and paste the same link to like 10 or 20 different people every time they share a post. It’s like, well, why don’t you just do that in one place? [Scott Gorlick]: I would love that. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, I mean, the feedback has been really, really good from people we’ve talked to about it. So I know it’s going to like do well. It’s just we can’t launch it until the database thing is fixed. [Scott Gorlick]: Let me know. Let me know if I can be early user. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, dude, I’ll totally give you like the beta. If we do a beta, I’ll give you beta access to it. [Michael Houck]: But once we launch that for individuals, the idea is then to also launch sort of like a marketplace of these engagement pods where you start or join a pod that’s like people who are growing on LinkedIn, who have between 1,000 and 5,000 followers in the AI niche. And then you share stuff back and forth with them for free. The audience is cross pollinate. So yeah, we’ll see how that goes. The last thing we might do, I’m still like debating this actually would love your take on this. So right now, Megaphone is it feels expensive to people, even if it isn’t expensive relative to other apps, because you have the subscription and you have the deposits, right? The sort of like more incentive aligned way to do it would obviously be just remove the subscription, maybe take a higher commission on then through the network. I haven’t been able to do that so far because we’ve needed the subscriptions to fund the engineers to build the actual product. But once we launch groups, we’ll sort of be in a place where I don’t really need that anymore. And so I’m thinking about changing the pricing model and kind of letting it have it like a dip, but then probably grow more organically from there. [Scott Gorlick]: I mean, you’ve kind of put up a wall where it’s like, okay, it’s like whatever dollars per month and, you know, happy to pay it, um, because I know it supports the product, but it’s like, it’s whatever, like it is per month. Right. And then it’s like, okay, like, cool. I’m just going to throw money. It’s sort of like promoting or boosting a certain tweet. And like, there are certain people that, you know, we’ll say like, oh, I’m not going to pay 49 or $39 month. Um, and that's kind of a wall. So if you remove that and let the marketplace float naturally and let people pay similar to like a cameo or like a per engagement thing, I think that's a lot more palatable, right? [Michael Houck]: Yeah, I think that it's just a psychological thing. It's like even if we're taking more in commission, it feels deeper because it's like you only need to cognitively pay. It also feels like you're like paying for the privilege to spend on ads, which doesn't feel. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's a little weird. Um, I've talked to a couple of friends and I've been like, look, this thing works. If you have good content, it helps amplify it. And they're just like, Oh, like why do we have to pay like a per month thing? And I'm like, huh, I get it. Like makes sense. Yeah. I think if you make it free, you'll see like more usage. Um, but also probably scary to kind of like throw away the SAS revenue on that a little bit. [Michael Houck]: It's scary, but I think again, once we're at a point with the product where I can just have it run, like, yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: How do you, how do you decide like what a specific creator pays or like, you know, you know, market where it's like totally free. Right. And you just pay per creator. Like when I go on there and say like, Oh, I want a boost from, you know, so-and-so and I'll pay $10 or how. [Michael Houck]: No, same, same process as now you set a budget for the post and our algorithm to match. Um, the creators kind of set their own, their own prices. Um, the one sort of real concern that happens if we remove the subscription though, is, and the reason I had this description in the first place, aside from funding product development, it’s because it’s sort of like a gate on content quality, right? I don’t want the creators to get spammed with like, uh, you know, go comment or repost my like giveaway of an iPad or something like that, you know? Yeah. You got to think about a way to, to vet that. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. I think that’s probably going to be your biggest problem if you go free. [Michael Houck]: Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: So something to think about for me, but, um, the last thing I’ll say is, um, like immediate versus an hour later, I think you’re experimenting with some sort of like pro tier. [Scott Gorlick]: well organically in the first hour, like, let me text Mike and see where like, you know, megaphone is and then like literally an hour on the dot, like everybody started engaging and then it went crazy. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, the one hour, it’s like people, some people underestimate the impact of that first hour, but like it does make an impact on it. Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: Stuff’s good here. Prepping for the baby, that’s number one. Number two, Twitter stuff has gone pretty well. I need to increase the frequency. I’ve gone from 3,000 followers to almost 17 with four tweetstorms, which is pretty good. [Michael Houck]: Your hit rate is so insane. You would be the envy of any, any other like megaphone customer who’s like, how do I, how do I grow that much? [Scott Gorlick]: And we’d love to do more with you. Like, you know, it’s kind of fucked up is like the first one went for like 6 million. And then the next couple went for like one and a half to two and a half million. And I’m like, Oh, this is only like a third as big, right? [Michael Houck]: You get used to it so fast. [Scott Gorlick]: Oh, this is fucking crazy. So Yeah, so I’ve probably got like five or six more threads to go that are like Uber-related content, which I think will do pretty well. The one that I’m going to drop later this year, I don’t know when I’m going to drop it, but it might be around Black Friday side or Monday, is working in an Amazon warehouse, sort of an inside account. I’ve probably told you about it, but I think that one will go nuclear. So I think that’ll be pretty interesting. I still have to write it and figure out the right positioning, but I think it’ll be very interesting and it’ll probably touch a lot of nerves. [Michael Houck]: Yeah. The more you can sort of touch on that controversy without actually associating yourself with it, the better. When I wrote the threads I did on Palmer Luckey and Travis Kalanick, I wasn’t like, this was wrong or this was right or whatever. I just sort of framed it in a way that where the wording sort of triggered people on both sides. Cause it was like unexpectedly supportive. And so the people who supported him were like, yes, fuck yeah, let’s go that way. And then it was like sort of not the free framing that a lot of the detractors would expect. And so they were like, Oh, what the heck is going on here? [UNKNOWN_SPEAKER]: Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: So I did that. Um, I think that’s going reasonably well. It’s happened a lot faster than I probably expected it to, but it’s been fun. So learning to manage that. [Michael Houck]: You’re a creator now, man. You’re a creator now. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah, I know. Trying to figure out the best way to monetize. I took on three consulting clients. So I’m kind of mixed on it. I don’t know if that’s the right model long term for me. It’s just like, okay, I can either hire more people and build a consulting firm, which Is fine, but it’s not like what I wanted to do Yeah, so I’ve got you know one client paying me like 7k a month I’ve got another client paying me 6k a month and then another one paying like 2.5k a month Average data at like 500 an hour, but it’s just like it’s it’s fine, right? Like I know I could probably do more I do us but like, you know, it’s not super engaging It distracts me from like the work that I like totally enjoy doing so we’ll be wrapping those up in the next like month here in the six just because like it’s taking up a lot of like brain and time space that like, you know, I I I don’t know. I mean, maybe I’ll do better companies. I think one’s a Series A company backed by Left Lane and is doing reasonably well. Another is a real estate company that’s backed and it’s a total dumpster fire. But it’s like, OK, you guys need to fix some internal problems before you can bring in somebody like me. And it makes sense. And then the other one is sort of one in the home services space, and they’re bootstrapping, they’re doing really well, and that’s fun, and it’s like $2,500 a month, and I’m like, okay, that’s the level of engagement that I wanna have rather than something super big, right? Interesting. Yeah. [Michael Houck]: And you’re just like, when the baby comes, I just don’t wanna have to deal with some of that stuff. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah, yeah. I wanna figure out how to automate stuff and figure out how to make how to do something more passive or to figure out how to bring the advising stuff that I’m doing to more people and figure out how to monetize it. [Michael Houck]: How are you advertising? I’m not. [Scott Gorlick]: The first advertisement I did was at the end of my last thread, I said, if you want this, there’s more. Click here or sign up for my newsletter or sign up for my email list, I don’t want to call it a newsletter, and I’ll send you how Uber solved the chicken and egg problem, and then I send them an e-book with how we solved the chicken and egg problem, and then it’s related to other stuff. You know, I think, like, I’ve got to figure out, do I want to do, like, a newsletter type thing? Do I want to get into, like, the course thing and figure out, like, if there’s a world where, you know, there’s, like, a Justin Welch type play, do I want to be, like, the Lenny Ruchitsky of operations, which I think is interesting. I think I’m trying to figure out what the right model is. And look, I’m really fortunate that we don’t have the pressure to figure this out now. My goal for the rest of the year is to build the audience. And then in the new year, once we know how the baby is and what we want, figure out exactly what to do with it. [Michael Houck]: out of the versions you mentioned, I think that positioning you as the Lenny of operations is the strongest positioning. And I think it’s where, like, there’s like the Lenny-ification of a lot of different niches happening right now. There’s a guy trying to do it in like every single niche, but there’s actually not somebody with insane credibility trying to do it in ops. And so the playbook there would be super clear. Operations people would have, you know, just as much sort of willingness to pay, I think, as product people would. [Michael Houck]: So I could see that working pretty well. And just you building up, you know, maybe it’s a newsletter, maybe it’s a podcast, although newsletter is easier to grow. Could also just be where you like do that, do a podcast and then just send it out via email with like some notes and have that be your engagement with the email list that you collect and drive traffic to the podcast instead. [Michael Houck]: But yeah, I think monetizing through subscriptions to that or some community offering Courses could make sense too. The Ops audience tends to skew, I think, a little younger. And so there’s that hunger to sort of like, you know, ambitious hunger to sort of level up and learn from someone like you. So. Yeah. I think you can go a bunch of different ways with it. Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: I’m trying to follow my energy and I think I like teaching. Right. Um, I don’t know if it’s like a course or like, I like this lineification of things. Um, and just figuring out like what that is for operations. I haven’t seen anybody do it and it’s like driving me nuts that it’s not there. There’s like one person that’s doing it. It’s not very good. [Michael Houck]: Um, this guy is, um, he does it for B2B, B2B marketing. Uh, he’s done really well with it as well. Um, maybe worth looking into what’s working. It doesn’t do courses that much, if at all, I don’t think. [Scott Gorlick]: Um, but they do a lot. When you say community, well, like what do you. [Michael Houck]: Just like the, you know, it’s one thing to build up a big audience on Twitter or whatever. It’s another to be able to mobilize that audience at a high rate to, you know, engage in a community and have that community actually be active. Right. So, um, like the guy who runs this, his name’s Dave. He doesn’t have like a huge Twitter, smaller than yours maybe. Um, but he’s really good at getting people interested in what he’s doing with this exit five thing. And there’s a lot of word of mouth in the B2B marketing space around exit five because he’s just so invested in that. Um, so yeah, that could be something. And another guy who does it really well, you’ve probably seen, His stuff is this might be maybe more aligned to what you want to do is my friend Jay He his positioning is like Breaking down how to be a creator into scientific method And he’s got courses. He’s got tools. He’s got a podcast the YouTube channel ha He’s got a whole community. He’s got a whole thing around it. Really, really interesting. Also just really smart guy in general, where he just gives out sort of everything he does about building his creator brand. Um, and so, yeah, I think it’s super helpful for, that’s cool. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. That’s amazing. Um, yeah, I mean, I think there’s a path to doing like a seven figure business here. I just don’t know what it is yet. Right. [UNKNOWN_SPEAKER]: Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: Um, what, yeah. And I think it’s like figuring out like, okay, like what do I get energy from Like what, is interesting versus not interesting. But yeah, it’s been fun. And then I think I think you like a little while ago, Harry picked picked me about doing a podcast. So I hopped on with him and did that. So that came out today. Which is fine. I don’t know if it’s going to drive any traffic or engagement or whatever. But it’s a good piece of content I could use in like other places. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, I mean, now you’ve been on its social group. Yeah, it’s social proof. You are you are, you know, not that you weren’t before but it’s just another kind of legitimate spike Yeah, I mean it was fun. [Scott Gorlick]: I don’t know if you know Harry or have spent time with him Some people like him some people hate him. I thought he was really nice and kind so Big fan of his and like appreciate the engagement. He’s giving me which is good. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, I’ve never met him ever interacted with him So I don’t really have a story. I don’t actually listen that many podcasts either. So I have a strong opinion, but I Yeah, I don’t know. [Scott Gorlick]: No, that’s cool, dude. But yeah, trying to figure out which direction I want to go. The other thing that I might do is I’m meeting so many interesting people now that maybe there’s a world where it makes sense to partner up with somebody that I meet and build something. [Michael Houck]: Oh, like a new startup? [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah, like a new startup. Probably not venture funded. I’m not interested in that. But I think I’m starting to meet a lot of people that are in similar spaces. They’re like, hey, I want to build an agency here. I want to do this. And they’re like, oh, you could bring this to the table. I’m like, OK, cool. But I think right now it’s just, hey, what’s interesting? Where do we get energy? And what are we going to want in six months is how I’m thinking about things. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, plus you’re about to have an event that could change the whole perspective. Starting something now would be crazy. [Scott Gorlick]: I mean, there’s also like the remote possibility I decide to do venture, but I don’t know how excited I am about that. [Michael Houck]: I feel like that’s what a lot of people say before they get into venture. I don’t know how excited I am about it, but like the options there. And then it’s like, well, actually it might be a nice option. And then it’s like, yeah, it could be. [Scott Gorlick]: Um, so yeah, that’s kind of what’s popping here. Um, what, so you guys are focused mostly on the ghost writing now. [Michael Houck]: No, I mean, megaphone is still when we, when we sell it, it’ll be both of them probably together. And we’ve had a couple of people reach out about, uh, about purchasing them, but it’s just, I know there’s so much more upside over the next six months that I’m like, let me just, let me just do that. Um, but other than that, we’re actually totally rebranding the newsletter, which is crazy away from my name. Um, we’re making it, we’re, uh, it’s gonna be called founding journey and it’s going to be, newsletter, which is like talking about me as a founder, my founding journey. And then we’re launching a podcast, we’ve recorded episodes with like, Tyler Dank and Steven from Cameo and a few other dope people. And that’ll be about their founding journeys. And then we have another product that’s like part of this suite, which is a case study library. Basically, I had my team interview like 65 VC backed founders over the summer. And we’ve written case studies about each one. And we’re selling them as like a starter story. I don’t know if you’re familiar with starter story. It’s basically taking what works for starter story and applying it to fundraising and VC backed startups instead of like bootstrapped whatever companies. So that’s like the main product. And then sort of the newsletter and podcasts are like mid funnel ways to get people into there. That’s cool. I love that. Yeah. No subscription, just one time payments. So it’s we think it’ll be pretty appealing to people. [Scott Gorlick]: Where are you pricing at? [Michael Houck]: We’re going to start at I 195, think, uh, I mean, starter store is like a thousand bucks. So I think that once we build some, some hype around it, we can increase a lot. [Scott Gorlick]: I didn’t realize starter story was so expensive. That’s crazy. [Michael Houck]: It’s nuts, man. I don’t know how I would never pay a thousand bucks for it, but I guess for people who aren’t like, you know, who don’t have relationships and haven’t been in the space for a while, it’s like a great way to sort of just get started. [Scott Gorlick]: I don’t love starter stories, so that’s why. I really don’t like the style of that. Huh, interesting. What are you seeing? So I’m going to start bringing stuff from Twitter over to LinkedIn because I think it’s just an easy copy. Is there anything like I should know? [Michael Houck]: So the thing on LinkedIn right now is video, short form video. [Michael Houck]: I don’t think they’ve rolled out that everyone yet, but on the mobile app, there’s like a video tab. Yeah. So that’s where all of the traffic on LinkedIn is going right now. So that’s why we’re actually starting doing short form video too. But, um, If you’re not going to do short form video, then I would say, and if you are, I have a great editor that I could, I could intro you to, but if you’re not, then I would say the best strategy is probably to try carousels where you’re like screenshot the tweets and turn them into little like PDFs and then have a little carousel show up or, uh, also test out just some like long, like text posts. Um, carousels used to be like the no brainer way to do it, but now sort of they’ve sort of the, the taskbar and it’s short term video, which is crazy. [Scott Gorlick]: And it’s where the connection button used to be, which is wild. [Michael Houck]: So it’s gonna, it’s gonna be, it’s gonna be the big thing for sure. [Scott Gorlick]: So Harry actually sent me two short term form videos that I could use. Oh, yeah, he’s told her I wonder if I should just throw them up like next week. I don’t like he was like, Oh, I’ll post on LinkedIn today. And I’m like, I don’t know that there’s anything going on on Friday before Labor Day. I think it’s Tuesday. I was like, dude, like, just release the episode next week and he’s like, oh, we’re releasing it today. I’m like, okay, like I get that you’re in London or whatever, but like that’s fine. [Michael Houck]: Yeah. I mean, you know, I would say since you, that would be a great sort of like first, like going back on LinkedIn, start a post on LinkedIn because they’re much more likely to get shown to like people who haven’t previously engaged with your content than a written post would be right now. [Scott Gorlick]: Oh, interesting. Yeah. I’ll play with those next week. That’ll be fun. [UNKNOWN_SPEAKER]: Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah, it’s it’s super interesting. Yeah. [Michael Houck]: I don’t know, man. I think like, I think you’re onto something I really do. And it’s because it’s just crazy how like few pieces of content you’ve had to put out in order to get sort of the initial bump that you need to sort of be even considering like going in on this and building a business around it. It’s nuts. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. It’s, it’s totally wild. I need to increase my velocity. Right. And sort of like frequency. [Michael Houck]: But I mean, if it’s working for you right now, like if you, if you want to go in on it and like build something around it. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. Yeah. That’s cool. [Michael Houck]: Right now it’s like, I feel like it’s like a, you’ve sort of made it like a, this is what Greg Eisenberg used to do. He would make it like a, he wouldn’t post as much. Now he posts like all the time. [Scott Gorlick]: He probably has a TV. [Michael Houck]: But it was like, it would be like a big thing when he would post a thread and it would be so unique and so different than other content that was out there. His perspective was really interesting. And so he posts like one thread every week or two or three or whatever. And it always went somewhat viral because it was just really high quality content. The signal noise ratio for his posts was like a hundred to zero basically. [Scott Gorlick]: Huh? Yeah. Yeah. That’s good to know. What are you guys going to have going on for the weekend? Anything fun? [Michael Houck]: Might go to the US Open. [Scott Gorlick]: Oh, shit. That’s awesome. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, I love tennis. So might do that. [Scott Gorlick]: We should try to go next year together. Yeah, let’s do it. Yeah. [Michael Houck]: I mean, if you guys are up for a last minute last minute trek, we could do this. [Scott Gorlick]: I’d love to, but we’re actually so I think I told you we’re probably going to have to deliver early. [Michael Houck]: Yeah. [Scott Gorlick]: So basically, In about 10 days, Allison’s going to get admitted to the hospital and she’s going to be there until like 35 or 36 weeks. So we’re kind of dialing back and just trying to kind of bubble a little bit. Every week, unfortunately, we develop babies healthy, but like we just kind of need to Just kind of like the protocol is like hospitalized at like 30 to 32 weeks and then do a C-section at 35 or 36. So we’re just kind of trying. We’re probably not seeing people for a while, which sucks. [Michael Houck]: No, no worries. Are you going over like today? No, probably tomorrow or Sunday, depending on the rain. [Scott Gorlick]: I want to see the Tiafoe-Shelton match. I think that’s in like an hour. [Michael Houck]: Is it 1.30? Yeah, I know. I wish that I had less to do today so that I could just pop over there. Yeah, I will I will if we end up if it doesn’t rain we end up going but Dang dude five weeks. You’re are you gonna be like living at the hospital basically? [Scott Gorlick]: It’s ten minutes away from us like unlock so, you know, I can walk back and forth But yeah, I’m going to be spending a lot of time like back and forth. So it’ll be okay though. We’ve got Allison’s mom up here. Like we’ve got like the right care. We’re setting her up with everything she needs in like the hospital, a big private room. Like it’ll be fine. [Michael Houck]: I remember when we, last time we met up, you, you, you told me that I think in the same building or something, Allison’s like mom, like her brother was coming too or something and you guys are taking over the [UNKNOWN_SPEAKER]: building. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. Yeah. So that’s kind of, uh, the game plan, but dude, so good to catch up. I’m a huge fan of everything you guys are pushing and more soon. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, dude, let’s chat more soon and good luck with everything. I wouldn’t say early congrats, I don’t wanna jinx it. [Scott Gorlick]: Amazing, let me know when I can demo groups. All right, I’ll catch you later. Oh, do we need to free you on Twitter or are you back in action? [Michael Houck]: Well, okay, actually, do you know anyone there? Because I’ve been trying to talk with them and I know one person on the ads team, but they’re not a great and it’s been really hard to get through to the actual people I need to talk to. [Scott Gorlick]: Chris Bakke left. [Michael Houck]: Oh, did he leave? Yeah, he left. [Scott Gorlick]: If you were on Twitter, you would have seen that he left. [Michael Houck]: Yeah, it’s been weird not having it, honestly. [Scott Gorlick]: I know nobody that works there. That was kind of my only connection. It was a weak connection. But my feeling is they’ll probably let you back in after a brief timeout. [Michael Houck]: Hopefully they were not very clear in sort of the emails that they sent me. They were just like, Hey, you DM too many people in a short period of time. And I was like, I’ve been like suspended for like a day for that before, but never for like a month or whatever it is. [Scott Gorlick]: Yeah. That’s bullshit. All right. [Michael Houck]: I’ll check in with, uh, with try to find more ways in, but yeah, appreciate it, dude. Catch you later. [Scott Gorlick]: Bye.